They say that every suicide has a ripple effect. There is, of course, the impact on those closest to the person who took their own life: their loved ones, their dearest friends. But, as the circle widens, we realize that so many others are changed in unfathomable ways. Such was the case when a student at Utah’s Brigham Young University took her own life; English professor Peter Leman was changed forever, and became moved to share openly about his own mental health with his students. Peter knew that many students were struggling with issues like anxiety and depression, all while engaging in the high stakes, high pressure environment of higher education; and he believed that beginning each semester by being open and vulnerable about his own mental health challenges would be positive and helpful for his students.

As part of that commitment to openness and vulnerability, Peter wrote a heartfelt Recovery Diaries essay several years ago that not only resonated with many but sparked a movement towards empathy and understanding among students and faculty alike. Discover how the power of storytelling can transform lives and create supportive environments in places where stigma often prevails.

It was a true joy to welcome Peter back to Recovery Diaries several years later as a guest on Recovery Diaries in Depth. Throughout our conversation, we look at the vital role of support systems during moments of crisis. Peter is affable, intriguing, and warm, and our conversation, though dealing with serious issues like suicide prevention, crisis intervention, and self-harm, was so enjoyable, thoughtful, and hopeful. Peter demonstrates, through his own quiet advocacy and generosity of spirit that by fostering awareness and equipping young people with the tools to support their peers, we can make a significant difference in preventing tragedies.

Finally, we delve into the challenges faced by faculty in supporting student mental health amidst an already demanding academic environment. Peter candidly shares the emotional toll of balancing personal and professional responsibilities, particularly in the shadow of the COVID-19 pandemic. As we explore the necessity of compassion and presence without the pressure to fix everything, you’ll hear inspiring stories of advocacy and change. We leave you with a reminder of the importance of creating inclusive environments and invite you to explore additional resources and stories of empowerment on our website, Recovery Diaries.

One of my greatest joys in running Recovery Diaries and hosting Recovery Diaries in Depth is bringing wonderful human beings to your doorstep; people who are actually making a difference in their communities destigmatizing mental health, pushing back on myths related to shame and silence, and genuinely helping others. Peter Leman is one of those people I’m proud to share with you.

Conversations like the ones on this podcast can sometimes be hard, but they’re always necessary. If you or someone you know is struggling, please consider visiting www.wannatalkaboutit.com. If you or someone you know is considering suicide, please call, text, or chat 988.

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